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Hi again @MaLd0n, turns out it wasnt the usb causing the freezes. Had more trouble after thinking it was fixed, but then started freezing again. Finally figured out that it was to do with the gpu. Patched the platform id to 0x3E980003 instead of 0x3E981003 and freezes are completely gone. It's working amazing now. Thought I should post here incase anyone else is having the same problem. Been such a headache getting this one stable, but it's definitely a beast now it is! Thanks again for all your help mate.

Ok will try it out. Thanks mate.

I've tried it with three different ones. One powered usb2, one passive usb2 and one powered usb3. Happens with all of them. At least I know now though so it's not freezing anymore.

@MaLd0n Finally figured out what the problem was. If I plug a usb hub, doesn't matter if it's usb 2 or 3, into any socket, it'll freeze within half an hour. I've tried to see if it was one device but it seems it's the actual hub that causes the usbs to completely crash, meaning I have to hard boot. Tried it with 3 different hubs and the same thing happens, even with nothing plugged into them. Any ideas why that is? Tbh, it's working now with no hubs plugged in, so all good, just not sure why the hubs are making it crap out?

No not solved unfortunately. Still freezing, less but still freezing. I'm going to roll back the bios to f8 see if that makes a difference. The only other variable is the ram. I've got 4x16gb vengeance 2400. I ran rembr but didn't see any problem. Will try bios now.

Hey @MaLd0n, don't want to speak to soon, but think I've solved it. I found a post on another forum with someone that had the same problem. They removed all their boot args and got rid of the freezing. Only arg I had was alcid=1, removed it and... no more freezing. Obviously lost onboard audio but I don't need it because of usb audio. Makes sense as when it was freezing I was getting sample rate errors and then anything usb / audio was locked out. So yeah, fingers crossed its solved. ______________ Spoke too soon. Still freezing. Will try Mojave.

Yeah, I've physically taken the built in board out. Man, this is annoying. I'm going to try and rebuild the motherboard before I reinstall. Might be a bad connection somewhere. If that doesn't work then I'll try Mojave.

Gonna try Mojave now. It's weird because everything carries on when it freezes, all the apps that are open keep going, it's like there's nothing wrong, but anything that's usb just cuts out. Tried unplugging everything that's usb then plugging back in but it doesn't make a difference. It's like the usb gets locked out. Fingers crossed it's just a Catalina issue. Will let you know once reinstalled. @MaLd0n what are you using for bluetooth, just the onboard?

No joy unfortunately. Still freezing. So annoying. Might try reverting back to Mojave today. Thanks for all your help though!

Thanks, will test it out today!

send_me.zip

What do you think that means? Hardware or install? edit Found someone who had similar problem, they used... config.plist -> ACPI -> DSDT -> Patches: Find* [HEX] =A00A9353 54415301 Replace* [HEX] =A00A910A FF0BFFFF Comment = Fix Z390 BIOS DSDT Device(RTC) bug XML: <dict> <key>Comment</key> <string>Fix Z390 BIOS DSDT Device(RTC) bug</string> <key>Find</key> <data>oAqTU1RBUwE=</data> <key>Replace</key> <data>oAqRCv8L//8=</data> </dict> How do I try that in OpenCore? I'm new to it, kind of regretting not going the Clover route now ?

No overclock, tried turning xmp off too, seems a little more stable but still getting the freezes. Wifi is Fenvi 1200. Main difference is I've got 64gb of corsair vengeance, but it's only 2400. Don't think that will be the problem though?

Sorry @MaLd0n, correct run me send_me.zip Theres a clearer look at the log here too, It gives me this then just spurts the same errors as the one above, but this is at the point it freezes. 2020-04-17 15:48:09.716955+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: bluetoothd(158) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 15:48:23.457427+0100 localhost kernel[0]: tcp_timers: tcp_output() returned 0 with retransmission timer disabled for 53251 > 443 in state 4, reset timer to 402 2020-04-17 15:48:28.410773+0100 localhost kernel[0]: tcp_timers: tcp_output() returned 0 with retransmission timer disabled for 53252 > 443 in state 4, reset timer to 386 2020-04-17 15:48:37.056695+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from AUTO to SUSPENDED 2020-04-17 15:48:37.056700+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is suspended 2020-04-17 15:48:37.305556+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from SUSPENDED to AUTO 2020-04-17 15:48:37.305562+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::exitAwdlSuspendedMode Resuming AWDL from SUSPEND mode 2020-04-17 15:48:37.305713+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels Default alternate 5GHz channel 44 is valid 2020-04-17 15:48:37.305715+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: configureValidAWDLChannels:9582 Associated on non-DFS channel 6 (40MHz+). Channel is allowed for use by AWDL 2020-04-17 15:48:37.305717+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels social channel 2G: 6 on 5G: 149 5G Alt: 44 country code: US 2020-04-17 15:48:37.305718+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is off 2020-04-17 15:49:00.944635+0100 localhost kernel[0]: tcp_timers: tcp_output() returned 0 with retransmission timer disabled for 53254 > 443 in state 4, reset timer to 1478 2020-04-17 15:49:06.216038+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AppleSystemPolicy) initiating malware scan (activeRulesVersion: 9711272744793822155 lastScanVersion: 0 chgtime: 1587127614 lastFileScanTime: 1587127614 pid: 520 info_path: /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/SWAM Cello 64bit.component/Contents/MacOS/SWAM Cello 64bit proc_path: /Applications/Logic Pro X.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro X 2020-04-17 15:49:35.512912+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: 8 duplicate reports for bluetoothd deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 15:49:35.512914+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: mdworker(3711) System Policy: deny(1) file-read-data /Users/home/Library/Mail 2020-04-17 15:49:35.512971+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: mdworker(3711) System Policy: deny(1) file-read-data /Users/home/Library/Mail/V7 2020-04-17 15:49:35.517453+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: mdworker(3710) System Policy: deny(1) file-read-data /Users/home/Library/Mail 2020-04-17 15:49:35.517511+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: mdworker(3710) System Policy: deny(1) file-read-data /Users/home/Library/Mail/V7 2020-04-17 15:49:43.213223+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: bluetoothd(158) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317437+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) + IOAudioDevice[<private>]::init(<private>) 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317445+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) - IOAudioDevice[<private>]::init(<private>) returns 1 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317584+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) + IOAudioDevice[<private>]::start(<private>) 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317614+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) - IOAudioDevice[<private>]::start(<private>) 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317630+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) + IOAudioDevice[<private>]::stop(<private>) 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317631+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) + IOAudioDevice[<private>]::removeAllTimerEvents() 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317632+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) - IOAudioDevice[<private>]::removeAllTimerEvents() 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317632+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) + IOAudioDevice[<private>]::deactivateAllAudioEngines() 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317634+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) - IOAudioDevice[<private>]::deactivateAllAudioEngines() 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317636+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) - IOAudioDevice[<private>]::stop(<private>) 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317639+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) + IOAudioDevice[<private>]::free() 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317640+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) + IOAudioDevice[<private>]::deactivateAllAudioEngines() 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317641+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) - IOAudioDevice[<private>]::deactivateAllAudioEngines() 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317642+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) did deactiveateAllAudioEngines () 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317643+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) did detachAllAudioPorts () 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317643+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) did timerEvents->release () 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317644+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) did workLoop->removeEventSource ( timerEventSource ) 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317646+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) did workLoop->removeEventSource ( reserved->idleTimer ) 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317647+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) did workLoop->removeEventSource ( commandGate ) 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317648+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) did workLoop->release () 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317648+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) did IOFree () 2020-04-17 15:49:43.317652+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IOAudioFamily) - IOAudioDevice[<private>]::free() 2020-04-17 15:49:45.904374+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (apfs) tx_flush:1028: xid 79549 tx stats: # 6800 finish 6804 enter 342 wait 235 1744us close 8us flush 2902us 2020-04-17 15:50:06.369569+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (ALF) ALF, old data swfs_pid_entry <private>, updaterules_msg <private>, updaterules_state <private> 2020-04-17 15:50:06.404533+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (ALF) ALF, hash_free: found kext_info <private> 2020-04-17 15:50:06.760356+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from AUTO to SUSPENDED 2020-04-17 15:50:06.760360+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is suspended 2020-04-17 15:50:07.288516+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from SUSPENDED to AUTO 2020-04-17 15:50:07.288521+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::exitAwdlSuspendedMode Resuming AWDL from SUSPEND mode 2020-04-17 15:50:07.288675+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels Default alternate 5GHz channel 44 is valid 2020-04-17 15:50:07.288678+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: configureValidAWDLChannels:9582 Associated on non-DFS channel 6 (40MHz+). Channel is allowed for use by AWDL 2020-04-17 15:50:07.288679+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels social channel 2G: 6 on 5G: 149 5G Alt: 44 country code: US 2020-04-17 15:50:07.288680+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is off 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709624+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) en1: Received EAPOL packet (length = 161) 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709635+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) inputEAPOLFrame: 0 extra bytes present in EAPOL frame. 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709640+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) inputEAPOLFrame: decrypting key data 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709644+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) inputEAPOLFrame: Received message 1 of 2 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709645+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) installGTK: setting cipher key (flags = 0x0) 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709650+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) GTK-RSC: 00 00 00 00 00 00 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709658+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) GTK: fd 40 a4 1d b8 01 69 a6 66 e9 b1 79 19 b2 51 e9 c3 ec 81 38 62 9b 30 b6 7b ee 20 12 03 c7 97 6c 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709728+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (AirPortBrcmNIC) ARPT: 2622.524401: SetCryptoKey() bcmerr[0]: ea[00:00:00:00:00:00] R: keyIdx[2] keylen[32] flags[0x0000] algo[2] rxiv(hi[0x00000000] lo[0x0000]) 2020-04-17 15:51:29.709734+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) installGTK: GTK installed 2020-04-17 15:51:36.463996+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from AUTO to SUSPENDED 2020-04-17 15:51:36.464001+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is suspended 2020-04-17 15:51:39.793676+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from SUSPENDED to AUTO 2020-04-17 15:51:39.793681+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::exitAwdlSuspendedMode Resuming AWDL from SUSPEND mode 2020-04-17 15:51:39.793833+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels Default alternate 5GHz channel 44 is valid 2020-04-17 15:51:39.793836+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: configureValidAWDLChannels:9582 Associated on non-DFS channel 6 (40MHz+). Channel is allowed for use by AWDL 2020-04-17 15:51:39.793838+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels social channel 2G: 6 on 5G: 149 5G Alt: 44 country code: US 2020-04-17 15:51:39.793839+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is off 2020-04-17 15:51:50.034578+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (apfs) tx_flush:1028: xid 79569 tx stats: # 6820 finish 6824 enter 342 wait 236 1740us close 8us flush 2905us 2020-04-17 15:53:07.396447+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from AUTO to SUSPENDED 2020-04-17 15:53:07.396455+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is suspended 2020-04-17 15:53:07.924459+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from SUSPENDED to AUTO 2020-04-17 15:53:07.924463+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::exitAwdlSuspendedMode Resuming AWDL from SUSPEND mode 2020-04-17 15:53:07.924645+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels Default alternate 5GHz channel 44 is valid 2020-04-17 15:53:07.924648+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: configureValidAWDLChannels:9582 Associated on non-DFS channel 6 (40MHz+). Channel is allowed for use by AWDL 2020-04-17 15:53:07.924649+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels social channel 2G: 6 on 5G: 149 5G Alt: 44 country code: US 2020-04-17 15:53:07.924651+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is off 2020-04-17 15:53:51.456132+0100 localhost kernel[0]: tcp_timers: tcp_output() returned 0 with retransmission timer disabled for 53267 > 443 in state 4, reset timer to 6145 edit: just happened again, this time I get 2020-04-17 16:46:37.063120+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is suspended 2020-04-17 16:46:37.180868+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::setAwdlOperatingMode Setting the AWDL operation mode from SUSPENDED to AUTO 2020-04-17 16:46:37.180873+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::exitAwdlSuspendedMode Resuming AWDL from SUSPEND mode 2020-04-17 16:46:37.181027+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels Default alternate 5GHz channel 44 is valid 2020-04-17 16:46:37.181030+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: configureValidAWDLChannels:9582 Associated on non-DFS channel 6 (40MHz+). Channel is allowed for use by AWDL 2020-04-17 16:46:37.181031+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: IO80211AWDLPeerManager::configureValidAWDLChannels social channel 2G: 6 on 5G: 149 5G Alt: 44 country code: US 2020-04-17 16:46:37.181033+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (IO80211Family) com.apple.p2p: AWDL is off 2020-04-17 16:46:44.997565+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: bluetoothd(158) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 16:46:46.260361+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: com.apple.WebKit(1062) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification 2020-04-17 16:46:53.883572+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (apfs) tx_flush:1028: xid 80239 tx stats: # 600 finish 602 enter 444 wait 14 598us close 10us flush 2212us 2020-04-17 16:46:54.997827+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: 3 duplicate reports for com.apple.WebKit deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification 2020-04-17 16:46:54.997832+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: bluetoothd(158) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 16:47:00.210588+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: com.apple.WebKit(1062) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification 2020-04-17 16:47:04.998163+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: 2 duplicate reports for com.apple.WebKit deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification 2020-04-17 16:47:04.998168+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: bluetoothd(158) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 16:47:05.543391+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: com.apple.WebKit(1062) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification 2020-04-17 16:47:14.998504+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: 1 duplicate report for com.apple.WebKit deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification 2020-04-17 16:47:14.998513+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: bluetoothd(158) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 16:47:16.286678+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: mdworker(1190) System Policy: deny(1) file-read-data /Users/home/Library/Mail 2020-04-17 16:47:16.286713+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: mdworker(1190) System Policy: deny(1) file-read-data /Users/home/Library/Mail/V7 2020-04-17 16:47:20.177554+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: com.apple.WebKit(1062) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification 2020-04-17 16:47:25.997088+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: bluetoothd(158) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 16:47:31.177987+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: com.apple.WebKit(1062) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification 2020-04-17 16:47:36.995443+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: bluetoothd(158) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.server.bluetooth 2020-04-17 16:47:38.303798+0100 localhost kernel[0]: (Sandbox) Sandbox: com.apple.WebKit(1062) deny(1) mach-lookup com.apple.CoreDisplay.Notification

I think it might be something to do with usb. When it happens, my audio interface resets its sample rate, then get errors saying usb devices aren't recognised. Basically anything that's usb seems to reset, but it freezes the whole system. Don't know whether that's any help.